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Discussion Questions:
Please answer the questions below. Use paragraph form. The answer length will vary for grad and undergrad. The questions are all graded individually so extra effort in preparing your answer is rewarded. Email me your responses in Word .doc format to: tboake@sympatico.ca I will be posting these each week after the class. You should be prepared to deliver your answer in class -- but paraphrase, do not read it. Please only send to my sympatico address as I use this for the film course so that I run less of a risk of misplacing your answers. Feel free to include internet reference links in your answers. The answers are due in my Inbox at the end of the weekend following the in class discussion. (I generally spend the Monday before the film class assembling the web information for the next class and posting responses from the previous week). TERRI |
updated Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:26 PM
1. Jennifer Beggs
Q: Philip is creating the sounds for the Lisbon film without ever speaking to Fritz. His sound collection is based on his interpretation of the film. Likewise one would suppose is the case of the musical group and their creation of the musical score. How do you feel this subdivision of the creation of the film impacts the potential of its overall effect? At the end of the film, do you think they are changing their strategy? Why or why not? A: Philip is creating sounds for the Lisbon film without ever speaking to Fritz. Philip uses his own interpretation for the movie to record sounds and noises to fit the film. There can be some disadvantages to doing so which I feel is a little bit of a “hit or miss” risk. Philip uses his interpretation of the film to choose sounds which ultimately affects the overall mood and effect the movie has on viewers. There is a risk that his interpretation might be different than Fritz’s and therefore he may put emphasis on different sounds and parts of the film than Fritz has originally intended. For example if Fritz is trying to create a tense scene with lots of suspense he might not want the sound of a car zooming by; he might prefer it to be rumbling, adding to the suspenseful atmosphere of the scene. There is another risk in Philip recording sounds as he believes is necessary without Fritz’s opinion. The sounds may be too generic for the movie. Philip is going out and recording any sounds he hears in his regular life. If he has a sound for people talking, or sounds of people eating, it may be the right type of sound but may not be specifically what Fritz’s intended to hear during that part of the movie. For example if the sound Philip records is of people eating, it may be the wrong type of eating; different cultures and different types of food, such as chop sticks and finger food, sound different and the type of food (or action/activity) could make a difference if it is important to the movie. When the music is written to be added to the film without the direction of Fritz, it can either be suitable and helpful to the flow of the movie – or it can take away from the director’s vision of the film. The music is such a big influence on the movie and can change the entire effect of the movie. Using the same footage, different types of music can portray completely different moods and suggest different messages to the viewers. Pre-recording sounds and then adding it to the film may have a problem of the sounds sounding “generic.” If one scene has the sound of a car honking and another scene has the same sound repeated, you run the risk of the sounds appearing to have been chosen from a “menu” and the believability of the sounds and scene are decreased. The director is needed in order to ensure the sounds, music, footage and message of the film are in harmony and tie together well. |
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2. Jaliya Fonseka Q: Lisbon Story is a film about film making. Comment on the contrast that is provided to "the creation of the black and white movie withpurposeful sound effects" by "the static video filming done by the children". What is Wenders trying to say by including this side story? A: The creation of the black and white movie, as seen throughout the film, is very deliberate and highly orchestrated. Whereas, the video filming done by the children is random and does not present much thought process. |
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3. Miles Gertler Q: In Lisbon Story, Friedrich puts the camera on his back as a way of removing the responsibility of the filming from himself. Do you feel that this sort of camera position manipulates the way in which we see the action of the city? A: In Lisbon Story, Wim Wenders creates a character that struggles with his role as a filmmaker. This character, Friedrich, keeps the camera on his back to ensure that what he films is not contrived or influenced by what he wants to see. He explains that he essentially no longer trusts the subjective view of the filmmaker. To him, the mere act of seeing what he films, either during or after the recording of footage, is an inherent flaw in the process of capturing life on film. In the most direct sense, Friedrich’s intention is that the film never be seen, so that in fact the action of the city exists only as an archive. Should the film be granted an audience, one might experience something similar to the oblique angles and seemingly focus-less frames that shake and vibrate in Vertov’s man with the movie camera. In as far as this accurately captures the life of the city, one could argue that it sheds more light on certain qualities over others: the randomness of chance encounter, discontinuity of urban form, and perhaps on the often frenetic pace of activity. Of course cities have other, opposing qualities, to varying extents, but Friedrich’s, and Vertov’s, methods of filming could be similar in terms of the qualities that they evoke. Despite this speculation and the potential strength of Friedrich’s direction-less filming, or at the very least its conceptual value, we see very little of Friedrich’s footage, which is stored away mostly in his “film museum.” This is unimportant, however, since the film that Friedrich and Winter return to making is inevitably random in many ways as we see in the brief montage at the end; shots are filmed chaotically and rely on varying elements such as schedules of trams, natural lighting, and the audio track that Winter records from the urban soundscape. One can imagine that if Wenders’ version of Lisbon is as languid as the music of Madredeus, the folk musicians he features, Friedrich’s footage would be its antithesis in the mood and qualities it evokes. |
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4. Suzan Ibrahim Q: In the opening travel sequence the sound of the radio is carefully edited with the changing scenery. Discuss the relationship between the two and the effectiveness of some of the editing choices in assembling this sequence. A: The main character, Winter, starts off with a trip from northern Europe down to Portugal by car. The camera is however not filming him driving but filming the trip itself from his perspective looking over the road. As Winter is driving it becomes obvious how easy it must be to cross all the country borders within Europe as well as how fast the landscapes, weather and cultures changes. As the specific landscape changes from country to country, along with the weather, so does the music and the language being played. With the use of the sound from the radio, the viewer gets a sense of the context and the country that Winter is passing by through the language. Its editing of the radio reflects upon how important music and sound is to Winter, where we later understand that he works as a sound man for movies. Along with the music he is listening to it he hears the music band Madredeus and the girl singing in it but it switches quickly over to a typical french piece as he sees the Eiffel Tower towering over him and then retunes as he is about to cross the border of Portugal. Most of the clips within this sequence also takes place at the borders between the countries where the music has a sudden change in it. Other times Winter crosses an accident, and by the frantic sound from the radio it sounds like a newscast describing this accident. The climate changes drastically between northern Europe and southern, this is evident in the changing landscape and the sun which is accompanied by an appropriate sound clip for each. The combination of of the change of languages, climates, borders or cities, really emphasizes the landscapes he is passing by and engages the viewer in the travel as though they were passengers along with him in the trip. |
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5. David McMurchy Q: Lisbon Story is a colour film about the making of a monochromatic film. How does Wenders seem to feel about the use of the two methods of film presentation based upon a reading of this film? A: To Winter’s eye, the act of catching sounds and putting them into film is an art. Unlike the modern colour video cameras, such as the one used by the children to record their everyday activities, the monochromatic film is symbolic of a process that requires great care to accomplish. This process of three parts - the recording of images, sounds and their combination - is one of which Wenders plays a crucial role. Without his recordings, the video is monochrome not just in colour but in realism. Without his recordings the audience is left bereft of one of the our most important senses. Without him, the film that Fritz has been recording and left for him to discover has little meaning beyond being a novelty. By adding sounds to the films, he is validated as an artist and creator of something much more life-like. Comparing the monochrome film and its associated artistry to the colour recordings, so easy that even children can assemble them, one can sympathise with Winter’s distaste for a product that acts to make his life’s passion unnecessary and cheapens the act of telling a story. That’s not to say that Wender disagrees with colour recordings completely, just that they are beneath the level of care, detail and fullness as a medium that he uses for his own work and that he expects from the work of his friend Fritz. |
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6. Benny Or Q: Man with the Movie Camera and Lisbon Story purposefully let us see the movie camera and filming. How does the presence of the camera as part of the action of the film alter our perception of the city that is being filmed? A: Man with the Movie Camera takes a more documentary approach at filming. Because the |
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7. William Pentesco Q: In Lisbon Story we are shown two methods of capturing sound for a film. One as manipulated effects and the other the purposeful collection of sounds from the city. How do you think this part of the narrative of the film story changes our perception of the city that is being portrayed? A: When Winter is going around collection sounds the director, Wenders, orchestrated the scene in a way where the sound is disconnected from its source. The audience is put in a separate room trying to decipher the sound from the film. Similar to how Winter has the kids sit in another room and then creates sounds in the other room having them guess what the sound represents. This action of waiting for the source of the sound to be revealed allows the sound to become an effect on its own. Without visual stimulation the sound seems sharper and articulates every detail of the city. When the camera pans across after the microphone does, you can match the source of the sound with the sound itself. |
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8. Emmanuelle Sainté Q: Do you think "Lisbon Story" is an appropriate title for the film? Either from your idea of the film before seeing it, or after viewing the film. Explain your position. A: In my opinion, “Lisbon Story” is an appropriate title. In this film, the city of Lisbon acts as a setting, but it is more than a simple backdrop for the action. It is at once an instigator and a propelling force for the story. |
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9. Tristan van Leur Q: Both MWMC and Lisbon Story are about the making of documentaries. Man with a Movie Camera takes a spectator's position when viewing the city. Lisbon Story gets more personal. How does this difference in the approach of filming affect the viewer's interpretation of the respective cities? A: Lisbon Story’s intimate approach to documenting the city creates a biased view of the city. It follows on German tourist’s point of view, which is the eye the viewer receives for the duration of the film. This approach leaves the viewer with the feeling of being enamored by Lisbon. Man With A Movie Camera takes a very different approach, where the city almost appears to only be comprised of a million components all happening at once. The approach of many quick edits of seemingly random parts describes the city as this big place of industry and work. The city itself becomes a machine. The city becomes painted as a place for productivity, transport, and technology. This approach can leave the viewer feeling the frantic pace of the city, and it certainly disembodies the human element from the city. Lisbon Story’s single person point of view means that the viewer feels towards Lisbon, what Philip feels towards Lisbon. Philip is often looking at Lisbon as a thing of beauty, especially as he discovers new pieces and parts. Since you inherit Philip’s viewport, Lisbon becomes a beautiful place, but a quaint place. It is a place for someone to walk around and meet new people, a place of discovery. It is a city on that is peaceful and an intimate place. Man With A Movie Camera in total contrast leave the viewer believing the city is not a place for conversation, and not a quaint lovely city. The City can only be interpreted as a place of movement and chaotic energy. The viewer never gets to discover the conversation a family has at dinner, or between people at a bus stop. The city loses its human element. The two films greatly contrast in perspectives, and the result is a massive variant in the interpretation of the city for the viewer. Lisbon becomes a beautiful city filled with discovery and interesting people. The City in Man With A Movie Camera is a place of production and movement. It is chaotic, and does not feel like a place to live, and you gain no understanding as to what the culture of the city is at a personal scale, as the movie makes it appear not to be a social climate. Interestingly, Lisbon story also falls short in portraying what it really feels like to live in Lisbon, because the perspective that is followed is, essentially, that of a tourist. You don’t understand what it is like to work a regular day, raise a family, and live your entire life there, so Lisbon also does not become a working city. |
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10. Benjamin Van Nostrand Q: Lisbon Story has many separate films and film effects in it. The opening travel sequence. The regular film in Lisbon of Philip's stay and encounters. The B/W film that Fritz left for Philip to edit. The kids' videotapes. How do these rather disparate elements support the commentary that Wenders is making on film making? A: The answer to this question depends entirely on what one determines as Wenders' commentary on filmmaking. In this case I believe Wenders' views are mainly communicated through the plot, with echoes of those views driving the visual style and form. Fritz's dilemma (and seeming eventual loss of sanity) is in his daily confrontations with the innumerable subjectivities of his film - like a sort of cinematic Schrodinger's cat he cannot observe anything without influencing it into an unnatural state. Once he factors in the additional effects of showing a film to an audience, with all the stylistic and formalistic choices that entails, any hope of pure objectivity is completely lost. But where Fritz reacts by producing a film of the city behind him, intended never to be shown, Wenders embraces the many possible faces of the film head-on. Instead of trying to narrow in on one visual style, or one point of view, Wenders celebrates the chaotic variety that only the filmmaker's medium can allow. That, I think, is the message at the end of the film - that the inherent subjectivity of film as a medium and an art is something to be embraced and used to one's advantage instead of suppressed. In simplest terms, the B&W film and the kids' videotapes and the main narrative and the more artistic montage at the beginning of the film are all displaying the same content: the city of Lisbon and some of its inhabitants. In reality though there are many different threads of stories unraveling, and many different looks and feels that layer meaning and tone far beyond the superficial content. The brilliance of filmmaking is its ability to pick and choose these views at will, on the fly, and mix them or contrast them or juxtapose them through time. Interestingly, the main character Philip's view of the world is much more two-dimensional; when out recording the soundscape he experiences one fairly precise channel of reality, relatively uninfluenced by his perceptions and equipment/medium. Philip becomes a sort of anchoring force, a reassuringly reliable constant in the sea of variables that is the film's plot and visual style. |
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11. Richard D'Allesandro
Q: Comment on the significance of the use of the colours YELLOW and BLUE as an “effect” in the filming of Lisbon Story. What was their effect? A: In development, one of the most common effects or treatments for film, or for photography, is colour correction. This practice ensues from an attitude held by many videographers and photographers, where one must concede that the quality of colour captured by a camera, despite how well calibrated it may be, isn’t necessarily true to how someone would see or remember the colour quality of a scene or subject in reality. Out of the almost infinite potential for adjusting colour of film within our visible spectrum, a clear convention has emerged. Complementary colours RED and GREEN are considered subordinate for the most part and are often consigned to the fine tuning of an image’s tint. However, complementary colours BLUE and YELLOW, it is held, are used to adjust an images temperature. Temperature, because adjusting the image’s colour towards the more yellow or blue ends of the spectrum, produces an effect of making the image feel warmer or cooler respectively. And of course, to say that an image feels warm or cool, is to say that the image’s appearance evokes a warm or cool visual association. This idea of association can be taken further by establishing a couple fundamental visual associations and then analyze the use of this sort of colour correcting technique in Wim Wender’s film, Lisbon Story. |
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12. Michelle Greyling Q: Comment on the significance of the use of the colours RED/RUST and GREEN as an “effect” in the filming of Lisbon Story. What was their effect? A: Although an official review or explanation for the use of the colours red,rust and green in the "Lisbon story" was not found, there seem to be rich significance involved with the deliberate use of these colours in the film. |
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13. Shane Neill Q: With respect to the above two questions, why would I separate out the two sets of colours? Work this into a response that talks about the general impact of colour in film as a special effect. A: Much of the critical literature on Lisbon Story discusses questions of ambiguities in time, border, and identity that are explicit in the film. In the representation of space and time, colour is a primary cinematic element employed to visually construct such ambiguities. The Space of Colour The Time of Colour The Affect of Colour
Colebrook, Claire. Gilles Deleuze. New York: Routledge. 2002 Deleuze, Gilles. Cinema1. Paris: Editions de Minuit. 1983. Sontag, Susan. On Photography. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux. 1977. Tovgaard, Julie Wouwenaar. A quest for European Identity: Representations of European space in European Road Movies of the 1990’s. Master of Arts Thesis. Copenhagen: 2010. https://scrpties.let.eldoc.ub.rug.nl/FILES/root/Master/DoorstroomMasters/ |
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14. Ketul Shah Q: Discuss the separation of the act of filming “the images” with the “creation of the sounds”. Fritz’ film was silent and Philip was adding the sound based on his sound documentation of the city. How does this impact the use of the daily sounds in the film as “effects”? A: |
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15. Jamie Usas Q: The simple act of purposeful filming is already a simple effect as it modifies the reality of what it is capturing by fixing moments in time. Agree, disagree? Comment in general. (Don’t answer the next question). A: I believe that the act of filmmaking is an effect which modifies the reality of its viewership. Lisbon Story raises a specific question relating to the authenticity of a film work biased by the author’s desire to create beauty. Within the plot of Lisbon Story, director Wim Wenders juxtaposes a traditional narrative-style filmmaking process (the process of Rudiger) against a more accidental and less controlled filmmaking process (the process of Fredrick). The approach of Rudiger is a process by which life in translated through the filmmaker and expressed as the poetic representation of affect. By contrast, Fredrick’s approach removes the filmmaker as a medium between life and the camera, so that his own desire to see the city as beautiful, with not bias the the true nature of the city. |
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16. Maryam Abedini Rad Q: With reference to the above question, is this different if speaking about Metropolis (constructed set) versus Man with the Movie Camera (live action of city bustling) versus Lisbon Story (live action with combination of city bustling and acting). A: In Metropolis (1927 by Fritz Lang) ,one can find out that the music played a prominent role during the shooting of the film, since during principal photography many scenes were accompanied by director playing the piano to get a certain effect from the actors. While, "Man with a Movie Camera" (1929, directed by Dziga Vertov) was an effort to show the breadth and precision of the camera's recording ability, and similar films were produced in a few other European countries. The film is a succession of images supposedly showing the audience what the camera eye is seeing on the street and in other places. In comparison with the two discussed films "Lisbon story" (the 1994 film from director Wim Wenders) is about A City, Sound and the Cinema. Narrative structure clearly underlies the ability to tell a story and this story is amazing when the viewers can have the sound and the vision together to feel a place and time at the same time. The music does not have the significant role like the silent films and it has a separate role to emphasis on a special situation or action of the actors or narrative. The reality is behind a story this time and let the viewers follow by the rhythm of the film.In this film we have the opportunity to see the live action with combination of city bustling and acting. It is not a documentary film but it shows the efforts to make a live actions of a city that captured and the importance of sound that can make it actual and close to reality. The actors, the sound, the narrative of the film and the music have their separate significant role for success of the Lisbon Story! http://www.deep-focus.com/flicker/lisbonst.html |
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17. Talayeh Hamidya Q: Comment on Fritz's oration that begins with "Pointing a camera is like pointing a weapon". Is the camera itself a device that precludes the capturing of "reality"? A: |
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